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Maugham mom taught tot, caught cot, pawed pod, sought awed sot, sawed odd sod,
I still like my first output best: Who'd heed 'hood HUD head had hoed, hawed, & hid his hod?
Re: Cyd sighed & sawed, sued sad sod, & sowed said seed.
I used "Cyd" rather than "Sid" because "Sid" looks like it could be an acronym. SIDS, SIRDS
[nq:2](Btw, (a) and (a
are never contrastive, right? I smell a linguistic anecdote.)[/nq]
[nq:1]Length isn't phonemic in English generally. If therewere two words distinguished only by vowel length, it would turn out to be a side-effect of something else, such as r-deletion or "voicing" of the following[/nq]
obstruent.
I tend to believe that (for most people) the length is a bigger cue (than the vowels) in distiguishing
between the following minimal pairs.
Maugham mom taught tot, caught cot, pawed pod,
sought awed sot,
sawed odd sod,
hawed, bought hod, bot & ***-calk (not naught),
(This is more like a traditional tongue twister.
Are there traditional tongue twisters that focus on vowels?)
By James Joyce:
Sinbad the Sailor and Tinbad the Tailor and Jinbad the Jailer and Whinbad the Whaler and Ninbad the Nailer and Finbad the Failer and Binbad the Bailer and Pinbad the Pailer and Minbad the Mailer and Hinbad the Hailer and Rinbad the Railer and Dinbad the Kailer and Vinbad the Quailer and Linbad the Yailer and Xinbad the
Phthailer.
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Re: Cyd sighed & sawed, sued sad sod, & sowed said seed.
I used "Cyd" rather than "Sid" because "Sid" looks like it could be an acronym. SIDS, SIRDS
[nq:2](Btw, (a) and (a
are never contrastive, right? I smell a linguistic anecdote.)[/nq][nq:1]Length isn't phonemic in English generally. If therewere two words distinguished only by vowel length, it would turn out to be a side-effect of something else, such as r-deletion or "voicing" of the following[/nq]
obstruent.
I tend to believe that (for most people) the length is a bigger cue (than the vowels) in distiguishing
between the following minimal pairs.
Maugham mom taught tot, caught cot, pawed pod,
sought awed sot,
sawed odd sod,
hawed, bought hod, bot & ***-calk (not naught),
(This is more like a traditional tongue twister.
Are there traditional tongue twisters that focus on vowels?)
By James Joyce:
Sinbad the Sailor and Tinbad the Tailor and Jinbad the Jailer and Whinbad the Whaler and Ninbad the Nailer and Finbad the Failer and Binbad the Bailer and Pinbad the Pailer and Minbad the Mailer and Hinbad the Hailer and Rinbad the Railer and Dinbad the Kailer and Vinbad the Quailer and Linbad the Yailer and Xinbad the
Phthailer.
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[nq:2]Length isn't phonemic in English generally. If there[/nq]
[nq:1]were two words distinguished only by vowel length, it would turn out to be a side-effect of something else, such ... taught tot, caught cot, pawed pod, sought awed sot, sawed odd sod, hawed, bought hod, bot & ***-calk (not naught),[/nq]
Every one of those pairs is distinguished by quality rather than length (except, of c
[nq:1]were two words distinguished only by vowel length, it would turn out to be a side-effect of something else, such ... taught tot, caught cot, pawed pod, sought awed sot, sawed odd sod, hawed, bought hod, bot & ***-calk (not naught),[/nq]
Every one of those pairs is distinguished by quality rather than length (except, of c
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There was once a young lady of Guam
Who peddled her charms, charm by charm,
Inspired, I suppose,
By the classical prose
Of W. Somerset Maugham. Ogden Nash
Joe Fineman joe (Email Removed)
Who peddled her charms, charm by charm,
Inspired, I suppose,
By the classical prose
Of W. Somerset Maugham. Ogden Nash
Joe Fineman joe (Email Removed)
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[nq:1]Maugham mom taught tot, caught cot, pawed pod, sought awed sot, sawed odd sod, hawed, bought hod, bot & ***-calk (not naught),[/nq]
I'm having trouble making sense of this. Did you mean:
Maugham's mom taught the tot, caught the cot, pawed the pod, sought an awed sot, sawed an odd sod, hawed, bought a hod, a bot and a ***-calk (not naught).
I'm having trouble making sense of this. Did you mean:
Maugham's mom taught the tot, caught the cot, pawed the pod, sought an awed sot, sawed an odd sod, hawed, bought a hod, a bot and a ***-calk (not naught).
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[nq:1]There was once a young lady of Guam Who peddled her charms, charm by charm, Inspired, I suppose, By the classical prose Of W. Somerset Maugham. Ogden Nash[/nq]
Lines which prove (were it required) that Mr Nash did not use RP.
Lines which prove (were it required) that Mr Nash did not use RP.
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[nq:2]There was once a young lady of Guam Who peddled ... the classical prose Of W. Somerset Maugham. Ogden Nash[/nq]
[nq:1]Lines which prove (were it required) that Mr Nash did not use RP.[/nq]
What did that fellow use? The lines would seem to require both non-rhoticity and Western US CICness, which would seem to be impossible. (However, Gene Kelly may have used such an accent in at least
[nq:1]Lines which prove (were it required) that Mr Nash did not use RP.[/nq]
What did that fellow use? The lines would seem to require both non-rhoticity and Western US CICness, which would seem to be impossible. (However, Gene Kelly may have used such an accent in at least
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[nq:2]Lines which prove (were it required) that Mr Nash did not use RP.[/nq]
[nq:1]What did that fellow use? The lines would seem to require both non-rhoticity and Western US CICness, which would seem to be impossible. (However, Gene Kelly may have used such an accent in at least one of his film roles.)[/nq]
I have an LP of him reading his poems. He is definitely nonrhotic and CINC; but as
[nq:1]What did that fellow use? The lines would seem to require both non-rhoticity and Western US CICness, which would seem to be impossible. (However, Gene Kelly may have used such an accent in at least one of his film roles.)[/nq]
I have an LP of him reading his poems. He is definitely nonrhotic and CINC; but as
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