Does "a state of water liquid" sound right?

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Hello,Can it (= a state of water liquid) be an abridged version of "water exists in a state of liquid" or "water exists in a liquid state"?In I am very concerned about the state of her health., can it be rephrased: I am very concerned about her in the state of health?If anybody could clear it up to me, I will very grateful. Thank you.

AlpheccaStars · Accepted Answer

1) Water can be in one of three states (phases), depending on temperature and pressure.
At standard sea level pressure:

Water is in a liquid state at temperatures from 0 to 100 degrees Celsius.
Water is in a gaseous state at temperatures higher than 100 degrees Celsius.
Water is in a solid state at temperatures lower than 0 degrees Celsius.

A plot of the state of a material as a function of temperature and pressure is called the "phase diagram."

Phase diagram of water

~~state of liquid~~ - incorrect. Do not use this phrasing.

Bepleased · Answer

Hi,

A great suggestions Alphecca Stars.

According to your suggestions, the reason for why not use this phrasing---"state of liquid" is
that a particular plot of the state of water is for (as a help to) liquid.

So that phrasing must be in this way:"state for liquid".

Need your continued help.

Thank you very much.

AlpheccaStars · Answer

The water in the pitcher and glass is in both a liquid and solid state. It is both liquid water and ice water.

The phase diagram of water shows us when it is in a liquid state, a gaseous state or a solid state, depending on the temperature and pressure. It shows the state of the inorganic material H2O. You can compare the phase diagram of water with the phase diagram of carbon dioxide.

Carbon Dioxide phase diagram

State of liquid - NOT CORRECT!
State for liquid - NOT CORRECT!

You can use the following expressions: state of health (good, poor), state of mind (disturbed, healthy), state of water (liquid, solid, gas)
She is very sick.
She is in a poor state of health.

Bepleased · Answer

Hi Alphexxa Starts,

The "state" becomes a bottleneck in my understanding.

The best way to approach it is that I am one with you in your lines.

If some one are / is not one with you, please give your commends.

Thank you for your help.

(1) Is not the usage of "state of liquid " similar to "the state of America"?

Here, the "of" might be in relation to / connected with; or the "of" means : the state is named for America / the state is named for liquid, is it not?

The "of" in "state of liquid" is opposite to the "of" in "the state of water" in logic position.

an another example for this "of": He performed the violin solo with a beautiful sense of style.

(2) In "Phase diagram of water",

[phase diagram] = diagram for the purpose of phase;
[of] = phase diagram on the subject of / containing or the water exists in phase diagram
e.g. the painting contains the battle of Waterlo or on the subject of the battle of Waterlo; the battle of Waterlo exists in the painting;

(3) In the water in the pitcher and glass is in both a liquid and solid state. ,
Does the "is" mean "exists?

(4) In It is both liquid water and ice water.,
Does the "is" mean "has a quality of"?

(5) In You can use the following expressions: state of health / state of mind / state of water ,
Does the "of" mean "i.e." ? the operatipn is By the state is meant health / mind / water .

the similar way like: The quality of the service here has improved a lot.
the quality of the service = by the quality is meant the service;

Why the action? the action is for the reason / or the reason provides an explanaition / reason for the action / or by the action is meant the reason / the explanation / the excuse;

Thank you very much.

AlpheccaStars · Answer

It is very simple, bepleased. Your logic is gone awry.

(1) Is not the usage of "state of liquid " similar to "the state of America"?
(5) In You can use the following expressions: state of health / state of mind / state of water ,
Does the "of" mean "i.e." ? the operatipn is By the state is meant health / mind / water

It does not make sense for liquid (a general, not specific substance) to have state. Liquid is one of the three states of water, carbon dioxide, or other any other concrete substance that can change its observable state.
Liquid is an adjective in the expression: liquid state. Water can be in three different states. Thus the "state of water " can be ONE of these: liquid, gaseous, or solid.

State has a different definition in "The United States of America." State means a political area. The USA has fifty states. The people in each state elect two senators, so the US Senate, a governing group, has 100 members. New York is one of these fifty states.

You can speak of the "financial state of the USA" That is a different definition of state. The financial state of an nation can be one of these: depression, recession, growth, or stagnation. That means that the economy is growing or shrinking. The current financial state of the USA is slow growth.

(2) In "Phase diagram of water"
The diagram results from a set of scientific experiments. The scientist measures the temperature and pressure and sees the water in one of its three states. He draws a diagram of the results of the experiments. The phase diagram of water will be similar to the phase diagram of carbon dioxide because these two elements have similar behaviors.

(3) In the water in the pitcher and glass is in both a liquid and solid state. , Does the "is" mean "has a quality of"?
Does the "is" mean "exists?

Why do you keep asking the same question over and over again?
"Is" just makes a logical association between the subject and predicate. Just accept this as a construct of any human language. All languages have this kind of copula, so relate it to your own native language.

The question of existence is one for philosophers.
They might ask:
Do you exist?
How do know that you exist?
What is the nature of your existence?
If you "exist", then how do you describe your state of being, or state of mind, or state of health? : perplexed, confused, excited, melancholy or some other state of mind? Well, sick, dying, or some other state of health?
Does existence have a quality? What is the quality of your life?
Have you existed in an earlier life? How does your state and quality of existence compare with that of your prior life?

There have been thousands of books written on this subject, so if you are interested in philosophy, I suggest you study it. Here is a starting place for exists: http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/existence/

I suggest that you join a philosophy forum, where people would be very interested in discussing your questions of "exist", "have", "be" "quality", etc. Here is a starting place:
http://onlinephilosophyclub.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6172

Note:
Regarding the preposition "of".
Just learn how English uses this preposition, and relate it to your own language. "Of" has many different uses, and you will just have to study and learn them without deep analysis (ie. "logic position" ) which will get you into difficulties with any progress and understanding.

Bepleased · Answer

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http://onlinephilosophyclub.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=6300

Hello Aphecca Starts,

That is my first post in that forum.

AlpheccaStars · Answer

Excellent - your questions here are very philosophical, and go beyond the scope of EnglishForward..
The subject of existence and knowledge is very closely related to language, but discussed in philosophy.

Does "a state of water liquid" sound right?

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